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    Originally posted by onebadf150
    Troop, I was thinking about doing a turbo setup I really like the one you have by Pro Turbo. Do you think the kit will be as reliable and daily drivable as a KB 14-15psi on a stock longblock. I don't see why the Turbo kit wouldn't be more reliable and more friendly at the Pump if you didn't turn up the wick. Whats your thoughts since you plunged into the unknown?

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    I think a turbo equipped truck will be as reliable, if not more reliable, than a KB equipped truck - given the same boost level.

    Why?

    1. Less Heat = Less chance of Detonation
    The turbo creates less IAT2 temps than an Eaton or KB. KB's are great. They definitely make power, but at a cost, heat. Frank5L ran the 1/4 mile and saw 109* IAT2 temps through the stock intercooler. Those temps are fantastic. For me, I could run the 1/4 and I see 151*+ temps at the end. A 42* temp drop means less chance of detonation and more power.

    2. Less drag on the motor = More power
    Superchargers are great. I'm not knocking them. I've had 5 supercharged vehicles before the HD. But it takes power to run it - and a lot of it - driven off your crank. Although a supercharger makes more hp than it robs, by switching over, you're freeing 60-100 power robbing ponies.

    3. Gas Mileage
    Hmmm... consider this.
    You're driving on the freeway at 70 mph and turning 1900 rpm.
    In a supercharged vehicle, you're also turning the supercharger which saps a certain amount of hp and hence fuel.
    In a turbo equipped vehicle, exhaust heat turns the turbo. My guess is that I'm going to gain gas mileage (IF... and this is a BIG IF.... IF I can keep my foot out of it).

    That doesn't mean everything is all roses. There are some negatives.

    1. I think the torque curve is flatter with the KB or Eaton.
    - However, the is a chance for greater overall torque and more area under the curve with the turbo. That's why the Powerstroke Diesels run turbos and those things haul.

    2. Boost lag
    - If you don't run the right turbo, you'll have lag. Modern turbos and better understanding of pairings make this a rare thing however. Also you can run a higher stall converter so you make more torque when you launch. However, those with stock converters have said they only feel a half a sec delay and its OMG hold on! So, I'm hopeful this won't be a big issue.

    3. No turbo kit which is 50-state legal.

    4. Supercharger doesn't have all the tubing that a turbo requires. Which makes it easier to package.

    5. More underhood heat.
    - Okay, big deal. What really matters here is your IAT2 temps.

    Stay tuned,
    - phil
    Last edited by airtroop01; 11-16-2005 at 01:29 AM.
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    Ahhh... gotta love this pic.


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    I have never been so jealous in my life.

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    dang phil....looking better all the time!!!

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    airtroop01,
    Is that a polish or chromed C&L plenum.

    That's one bad azz set up you got there.

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    Did you ever consider that turbo kit where the turbo is actually near the rear of the truck attached to the exhaust?

    I remember reading about it a while back but they did not have a kit for the F150 5.4L yet.

    Just curious if you had researched this before making your decision.

    -Del

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    Wow, Thanks Phil for the Info Hey, after I get finished counting my pennys Would you help me put mine on?

    O please say yes


    thanks

    Nick

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    Mario -
    It is a chrome plated C&L plenum.

    Del -
    Yeah, I saw that kit. To be honest, I did not agree with the placement of the turbo on their kit. While a unique setup, its just too far back to get enough heat on the turbo IMO. It's going to work, but, the hotter your exhaust, the more efficient the turbo since the impeller is heat driven. With that kind of setup, I envision turbo lag (could be wrong). The positive side of it was that the downpipe becomes really efficient. Instead if someone wanted to design a kit that didn't sit in the engine bay, they should have twins mount right after the collector of the header, crossover underneath the vehicle and then run the tube back up underneath and to the engine bay for the inlet.

    I just really liked how this kit preserved a lot of the stock setup, fairly easy to install (assuming they send you all the right parts), and if I ever wanted to go back to stock, I don't have a problem as I didn't hack up anything. Not only that, but I can run a pretty big turbo in there.

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    Originally posted by onebadf150
    Wow, Thanks Phil for the Info Hey, after I get finished counting my pennys Would you help me put mine on?

    O please say yes


    thanks

    Nick
    Sure, fly me out there.

    Truth be told, I couldn't have done this without the help of camcojb and svtjay who have also been busting hump side-by-side with me. So make sure you employ another good buddy who is good with a wrench as well. Ahhh, and can't forget the lift - man that made things a lot easier when it came to pulling the header out and putting the new ones in. If you know a small handed midget that would help to get the header bolts started.


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    You got a deal Phil, But even better I'll bring the truck to you and hopefully camcojb and svtjay will lend a hand !!!

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    Originally posted by airtroop01
    If you know a small handed midget that would help to get the header bolts started.

    Does it matter if she makes adult movies?

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    Even better

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    Are any of these said movies involving 2 small stauted small handed young ladies tightning header bolts on a BadAzz harley truck with a Turbo ???????????? If so I'll take 1,000 copies I'll probably ruin a couple

    Tuned by Patrick @ PSI Motorsports 585hp & 609tq @ 15psi

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    Lol... as small bodied, small handed lady tries to hold my downpipe up for me...

    Alright, this is going downhill fast... lol

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    bad ****** picture.

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