Projector retro just about complete, waiting for install on truck

[DATS TTRAH!]

That's like saying the original Americans, were Foreign Native American Indians.

Lmao. Yada Yada Yada. Where u think altezza lights came from?! And lightning style tail lites as well. I know u don't have their tail lites but head lites are a "clean chicy ness". Smart cookie buddy. Lmao


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[DATS TTRAH!]

Projectors are far of better quality and transmit light more effectively and further, theres a reason why all high end cars and exotics now have them. I wonder if the small projector on the 350z could be modified to fit as it would barely be noticable. Like these

Also Walter, the smaller projectors USUALLY doesnt offer the bi-xenon feature which make your truck impossible to ever have high beams UNLESS u have other Headlites to convert when needed by simply pulling over and swapping out. Lmao. If u want small and single (best) projectors then the Honda s2000's (ap1 model) would be your best option to go.
Now u can get a small shroud that will cover everything up and not put off the projector look and still get your same goals. Bi-xenon is a little more trimming and fitting. When retrofitting bro. As long as u line up the left to right positioning on the projector which is the straightness of your beams than u can always adjust your ups and down from your OEM Headlite housing
Trying to help u out as u seem to be the interested party.
Sometimes i hate to post new finding or ideas as most "hate" bc it's not there's or they simply don't know the reasoning behind the mod
Sorry for the multiposts as it's tapatalks only function that doesn't allow multi-quoting

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[Tweek03HD]

haha, thanx bro!
most harley owners that dont approve of this mod or better yet other mods as well isn't seeing it into the usefulness category and instead seeing it in the look category. im tired of changing out ballast and that pushed me into thinking out the box...AT THE SAME TIME, i wanted oem parts to avoid giving me anymore trouble and nothing cheap bc after all...ITS A HARLEY! ALL parts used are oem down to the bulbs!
the major point of the mod is the light output! LITERALLY light versus day.
and as far as you callin gay may either mean you arent confident with your sexuality but im thinking its just a better choice of words that should be used. As that offended me, sorry if it offends you but again thanks for understanding the thoughts/love im putting into my HD

this is too funny as most of you prolly have lightning headlites and clear corners which refers rite back to the "foreign chic" lmao!!
......On another note, guys im not doing this for the looks what so ever! im ONLY DOING THIS for BRIGHTNESS IN LIGHT OUTPUT and the only way of me to get OEM parts is going with d2s based bulbs. brights suck for our drop in cheap hid ballast kit upgrades as thats whats needed most while headed to the camp for early hunting/fishing/drag racing. the faster you go on the open roads, the further you need to see ahead of you as well!
by the way, soon every vehicle will have projector lights and better yet ford already has them on most of their vehicles

Well Stud Im sorry but if me callin lights gay is enough to offend you then you have way bigger problems than headlights Chief! I had to think about sayin gay instead of the usual.

[walter123walter]

Also Walter, the smaller projectors USUALLY doesnt offer the bi-xenon feature which make your truck impossible to ever have high beams UNLESS u have other Headlites to convert when needed by simply pulling over and swapping out. Lmao. If u want small and single (best) projectors then the Honda s2000's (ap1 model) would be your best option to go.
Now u can get a small shroud that will cover everything up and not put off the projector look and still get your same goals. Bi-xenon is a little more trimming and fitting. When retrofitting bro. As long as u line up the left to right positioning on the projector which is the straightness of your beams than u can always adjust your ups and down from your OEM Headlite housing
Trying to help u out as u seem to be the interested party.
Sometimes i hate to post new finding or ideas as most "hate" bc it's not there's or they simply don't know the reasoning behind the mod
Sorry for the multiposts as it's tapatalks only function that doesn't allow multi-quoting

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I'll probably go with something similar to urs since they've been proven to fit well.lol. Or i can always yank out the ones on the lambo and put those on.

[DATS TTRAH!]

Well Stud Im sorry but if me callin lights gay is enough to offend you then you have way bigger problems than headlights Chief! I had to think about sayin gay instead of the usual.

haha...great one! old boy wants to crack jokes....good for ya as it didnt really offend in the way u may want me to think......

.....i was at one point offended because i wasting my valuable time reading an over exaggerated comment as this mod was to show ppl my case, not your case! i just dont remember askin what your thoughts were! i was informing ppl as a few of them asked me to do when the time came. The point is to inform them of the output and parts to get more aware of the project. just take this as a liitle advice and next time if you post comments...go with the positive if any or just dont post on it at all ! im happy for my usefulness of the mod which isnt looks. im very confident i will love it and it will look sick!

I'll probably go with something similar to urs since they've been proven to fit well.lol. Or i can always yank out the ones on the lambo and put those on.

GOOD LUCK!!
J U S T
T A K E
Y O U R
T I M E ! ! !

Its a fun mod and one of them mods that endless. you def feel the quality when turning the key at night!
if you need anything just let me know

[Harley#356]

Of all ppl I thought u would have a better understanding as u should know color charts vary from company to company
And I'n my opinion this color chart is def. Not showing great details compared to the ones i have seen. Lighting is my thing as i own 2 very successful electrical companies i know color charts and this is incorrect I'n my eyes!
I understand u own 4300k and that's great u take pride I'n ur lites but 5k is on the pure white area.
To the naked eyes and compared to oncoming traffic 4300k is white but digitally it's not. The reason PHILIPS made oem lights I'n 4300 k is bc that's the most lumen lite and more lumens are put out more on the yellow region than white EVEN though it seems brighter.... The computers read it brighter which I'n fact is brighter
Thanks for trying to make ur point clear.
I'm comparing everything to my normal lite output that I drive with. I like it white with a hint of blue....
NOW HARLEY read below and this could vary well explain y u think urs is white bc it may just be white but not 4300k white
GREAT HID BULB INFO:
The newer designed PHILIPS bulbs (85122+) are specifically designed to stay the same color with no color changing affects once "broken I'n". Their 4300k all the time. They designed these bulbs so when a bulb burns out, ppl won't have to buy 2 bulbs for color matching. Now the older designed bulbs (85122) are 4300k but after "broken I'n", the color can change to 5100k. This could very well be the reason some say their light output is white. Every bulb (but the PHILIPS 85122+) once "broken I'n" ,usually around 100 hours, has that color changing affect. Hope this clears up your explanations on how ur saying ur bulbs white 5000k IS WHITE but 4300k isn't

O and your lights are the only other route ppl should take for installing hid's. As them like mine are now designed to give the hid lite how it's supposed to. I like being different with my light setup and my route is the only way to get that color changing deep blue/purple affect which I'n fact keeps oem parts along with oem FORD lites. I can Noe drive around knowing the quality that was put into my lite output. I haven't had this many compliments with friends on a mod and this mods not even installed yet. ...Hehe!

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you've done a lot of reading, and I give you props for that, but I also have a little background in lighting and optics, I spent a year in school studying lightwave engineering (most will say wtf is lightwave engineering? lol). Yes the charts can vary even by the color settings on your monitor . I've got 4300k HID's in both my trucks, one was used and had 100+ hours, the other is new and probably has 25 hours and they both look identical. I had 5300k on my Stealth and no way would I call them pure white. They definitely had a tint of blue to them. Not a whole lot, but certainly a blue hue, whereas my 4300k sylvania xenarcs are 100% pure silvery white and absolutely no yellow. There's a reason all US OEM's use 4300k

[Tweek03HD]

Ummmm... let's see, posted in a public forum. That's askin for an opinion good or bad.

[UserName]

my head hurts

[fxstbf150]

Wow! never know what threads are gonna develop into.

[Nittoas21]

Wow! never know what threads are gonna develop into.

definetely been good reading these past few days.

and as far as projectors are concerned, i like them as long as theyre tastefully done and not stuck in some hideous housing. so far ford hasnt done anything like that.

[DATS TTRAH!]

you've done a lot of reading, and I give you props for that, but I also have a little background in lighting and optics, I spent a year in school studying lightwave engineering (most will say wtf is lightwave engineering? lol). Yes the charts can vary even by the color settings on your monitor . I've got 4300k HID's in both my trucks, one was used and had 100+ hours, the other is new and probably has 25 hours and they both look identical. I had 5300k on my Stealth and no way would I call them pure white. They definitely had a tint of blue to them. Not a whole lot, but certainly a blue hue, whereas my 4300k sylvania xenarcs are 100% pure silvery white and absolutely no yellow. There's a reason all US OEM's use 4300k

well on our Lexus LS460 they are white with a hue of yellow more than blue. of course im not basing the color on oem halogen. lmao, anythings looks white to that.
i deal with engineers day in and day out and atleast 80% of the jobs i bid on and get.. im always having to re-engineer them from their lack of experience working in the field although technically the items are spec'd rite! Just DOESNT make any sense on it working out the way its shown IN THE FIELD! there are 11 engineers that i can count off the top of my head thats been doing it for atleast 15-20 years at that. great that you atleast studied lightwave engineering though!
im tired of wasting my time by having controversial over your facts versus my facts and i will continue to stay with the successful way that i been doing for the past years.

Ummmm... let's see, posted in a public forum. That's askin for an opinion good or bad.

like i said above, sharing info bro....not really serving opinions as a few of my buddies asked to just post it for info to help them out. sorry u have a misunderstanding and ic you have a fond way to putting things into your own perspective. i posted in a public forum to GIVE the public an option other than off the shelf $400 xenarcs which projectors blow them out the water. my buddy has the xenarcs and i never liked the way the lenses have crystals everywhere when u walk up close to them.

definetely been good reading these past few days.

and as far as projectors are concerned, i like them as long as theyre tastefully done and not stuck in some hideous housing. so far ford hasnt done anything like that.

yep, thats my motto as far as retro's go! i was debating on doing the stockers and give my buddy his lightning heads back. maybe on the next retro i can buy him some stockers being lightning heads come in abundance and retro the harley stockers. i would take the orange reflectors out by laying real carbon fiber over the orange and carbon fiber shrouds to match the 2tone (gray/black carbon fiber). as far as ccfl rings go, i would mount the rings behind the shroud to work with the parking lites and nobody will see the ring. instead, they will the shine showing off the lites
.... as i dont like anything cheap on my hd! ill post a pic once mounted on my truck...had to do some adjusting and wanted to take the final pics once the time came to finishing!

['02 H-D #677]

Shame on me! ... I can't believe I wasted the time to read this thread! I guess I am a very shameless person. Shame, shame, shame on me.

[DATS TTRAH!]

too funny

[DATS TTRAH!]

Projectors are far of better quality and transmit light more effectively and further, theres a reason why all high end cars and exotics now have them. I wonder if the small projector on the 350z could be modified to fit as it would barely be noticable. Like these

walter i found these for ya! they are hella 2.5" like the 350z .
100% OEM that come in the rolls royce phantom and other high end cars as well! THEY ARE BI-XENON TOO!! seem like a steal for a pair at $105-130. only modding i would do to the projectors is put a spacer to get more blue/purple on the cutoff LINE.

Projector Headlight of HELLA E55 products, buy Projector Headlight of HELLA E55 products from alibaba.com
u might be able to even get the same oem shrouds from the phantom as it looks that way pictured below ON The link....


HARLEY356..
THIS PICTURE HARLEY IS A PHILIPS 4300K BULB AND YOU CAN VERY MUCH TELL THE YELLOW. if they were using a 35 watt ballast, it would be even more yellow
Philips8512255W.jpg






AND THESE ARE COMPARED TOGETHER.....again may i remind you that these bulbs are on 55 watts so there colors fluctuate 700-800k UP and you can still tell the yellow in the philips 4300!...

THIS PICTURE SHOWS HOW 5000K IS PURE WHITE
HOPE THIS SOLVES the dilemma ....
now you can compare halogen bulbs to the 4300k on the road and of course it is more white but once your eyes get used to lookin at your beam its a tad bit yellow for me..

[UserName]

Projectors are far of better quality and transmit light more effectively and further, theres a reason why all high end cars and exotics now have them. I wonder if the small projector on the 350z could be modified to fit as it would barely be noticable. Like these

Wouldn't larger projectors be recommended for headlights that are spaced further apart? Most of the smaller projectors ive seen are on headlights that are close together. I would think the larger ones would give a wider light scatter.