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    Yeah, I need to go into my gallery and save off my earlier pics to a photobucket account that I use now.

    Josh is right though. A lot of the pics in the how to's don't display anymore as people have deleted or let their photo hosting accounts expire or those companies go out of business or change names. It happened to me when Kodak sold out to Shutterfly and all of the links changed.

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    Gallery should be back up now

    Harley#356 we Fixed the attachment issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley#356 View Post
    the perk to the gallery is getting larger pics posted, but it's more hassle to use (extra steps vs. attachment button).

    I say ditch the gallery, but make the attachment thing work better. Sometimes it loads 5 or 10 boxes with browse buttons, sometimes it loads a window with thumbnails with an upload button, it's not consistent in what it does.
    the attachment features are dependent on the browser you use
    if the browser supports the drag and drop and the view of previous attachments it shows them - if not you get the old school way
    showing you your previous attachments is designed to keep people from uploading the same thing over and over
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    i'll get both versions using the same browser. sometimes I"ll click attach, one type menu will pop up, I"ll close it and reopen and the other type will pop up. Not a big deal, just a weird bug I noticed.

    I'll try attachments later when I update my build thread, but one thing I noticed this morning, is when I open new tabs of NHTOC, rather than the little NHTOC logo, it's just the generic v-bulletin logo in the tab. I'm on an older browser right now at work so not sure if that's it, or if it was a change with any upgrades. The little NHTOC logo was cool lol.


    *edit* attachments are working, but is there any way they can be slightly bigger, especially with no gallery? They're 640x360 now which is about the size of my cell phone lol. Any chance we can get 960x540? At least then they'll fill the whole width of the text area of a post when viewed on a 14-15" laptop screen. With the slower traffic on here that really can't be that big of a hit on the system resources.

    Last request, we can only attach 5 items, any way we can get that bumped to 10? If some one wants to post 10 or 15 pics of a build or an event, etc., they're going to post them no matter what, so it's either 2-3-4 back to back posts with 5 attachments each, or half the # of posts with 10 attachments allowed each.

    *edit again* the attachments aren't working on NLOC now.
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    oh my goodness the classifieds show up under "new posts" now.


    I couldn't care less about anything else, but that's a win in my book!

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    the favicon is there - you may need to readd the site to your favorites to see it
    http://www.nhtoc.com/vbforum/favicon.ico
    THe attachments on NLOC are now working

    Remind me in a few days about the size questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind View Post
    oh my goodness the classifieds show up under "new posts" now.


    I couldn't care less about anything else, but that's a win in my book!
    Lose for me as More people will see now when stuff is posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver_2000 View Post
    Remind me in a few days about the size questions
    reminder!


    also another request, is there any way the PM notification can be better? Other than the pop up when one comes in, I don't see unopened PMs. Sometimes a pop up blocker keeps the instant notification from popping up, or sometimes I acknowledge the pop up, and don't want to check them right away, but there's no indication of PMs at the top of each page like other forums or like this one used to have. Was also handy showing the % full at the top. Mine recently filled up and I had no idea till someone PMed me on aother board. I eventually found where it indicated % full, but it's not as obvious as the old layout or other forums. Just another small improvement that could be made to make the site more user friendly and ergonomic.

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    there is a PM notification at the top of every page

    IN my case it shows Notifications 5 right next to my username

    PMs can and usually do also send an email alert - unless you turned it off
    - and the site does a popup when you come back ... Just set the browser to allow popups from here

    At the bottom of the PM page is a colored bar graph that shows the number of your messages stored and how close you are to the quota

    Im not sure what else we can do ...

    here is copy paste from Settings ( up top right )
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    Harley#356 You have already uploaded nearly 500 more attachments than any other registered user
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    Attachment statistics 
     	21,887 / 21,515
    Total Downloads 	4,050,371
    
    Five Users Whose Attachments Take Up the Most Space
      	 User Name 	Attachments 	Total Size 	 
    1. 	Harley#356       1,005               58.51 MB 	
    2. 	dermaestro 	570 	                36.78 MB 	
    3. 	Dbl G 	        407 	              27.15 MB 	
    4. 	oki916 	        456                 24.05 MB 
    5. 	kromdom 	         503          	22.50 MB
    Last edited by silver_2000; 02-18-2014 at 03:18 PM.

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    you werent here for the pic whore days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver_2000 View Post
    there is a PM notification at the top of every page

    IN my case it shows Notifications 5 right next to my username

    PMs can and usually do also send an email alert - unless you turned it off
    - and the site does a popup when you come back ... Just set the browser to allow popups from here

    At the bottom of the PM page is a colored bar graph that shows the number of your messages stored and how close you are to the quota

    Im not sure what else we can do ...
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    That's notifications for everything. Mine says 64 New Notifications.....I ignore it because those notifications are 1 friend request and 63 likes. I think the "friend" thing on forums is silly, that's what facebook is for, adding friends on a forums is kind of a totally useless feature IMO. And I post so frequently, and usually always putting info or answering questions so my posts quite often get "likes", but personally I dont' really care about when a post of mine gets new likes, so I don't spend the time to go back to see who liked what post. It's like getting home and looking at my answering machine with 42 messages....rather than listen to the 41 telemarketing messages and the 1 newspaper trying to sell me a subscription, I ignore it. It'd be nice to just have something big and bright at the top that notified of new PMs on every page you're on. PMs are important and 99% of the time need responses. Likes and friend request notifications are pointless.

    Is there a way to turn those off, so then the notifications thing only notifies me of PMs?

    And the pop up alert only pops up once the first time you log in with a new PM. If you ignore it to go look something up, when you come back the next time it doesn't notify you of the still unread PM. And pop up blockers can sometimes block it totally. And email notifications I have shut off, or for an email I don't use frequently. I use email for email, I use NHTOC PMs for HD discussions, I use LR for L discussions, I like to keep NHTOC PMs on NHTOC, not email to go to NHTOC, etc.

    And I see the total PM box size is at the bottom, just a simple request to move it to the top. I don't clean my PM box every day, and I get a LOT of PMs. I have 177 messages in there right now. I usually let it go to almost full, then go back and mass clean it. I click on a new PM at the top, read, respond, and go back to forum cruising. I never scroll 14 pages down to the bottom of the PM box to see the bar indicating how full or empty it is. If that was at the top, I'd see it every time i check my PMs without scrolling down to the bottom.

    Yes I could clean my PMs more often, yes I could scroll down to the bottom every time, Yes I could acknowledge every friend request and like notification, or a couple forum tweaks could make it more user friendly and "ergonomic". Yeah it all sounds picky, but it's not like I'm a forum newbie. I've been a "power user" since 2000 between f150online, nloc, nhtoc, and lightningrodder, I probably have over 100,000 posts between the sites over the past 14 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by silver_2000 View Post
    Harley#356 You have already uploaded nearly 500 more attachments than any other registered user
    Code:
    Attachment statistics 
     	21,887 / 21,515
    Total Downloads 	4,050,371
    
    Five Users Whose Attachments Take Up the Most Space
      	 User Name 	Attachments 	Total Size 	 
    1. 	Harley#356       1,005               58.51 MB 	
    2. 	dermaestro 	570 	                36.78 MB 	
    3. 	Dbl G 	        407 	              27.15 MB 	
    4. 	oki916 	        456                 24.05 MB 
    5. 	kromdom 	         503          	22.50 MB
    So you're trying to say what here? I've posted too many pics over the ~12 years of NHTOC so I should stop putting pics up and leave the site??? I also have over 30k posts here, so my % of posts using attachments probably isn't much higher than anyone else, I've just supported the forum for an extremely long time. So does that mean I should stop posting here and sharing info, mods, advice, how-tos, and answering questions? I'm the only one out of those top 5 besides oki who is still around.

    And 1,005 attachments since the dawn of NHTOC 12 years ago for a whopping 58.51 MB of space? That's 0.38% of a single gmail email account space. ALso with the drastically reduced traffic of NHTOC now days, a slightly bigger image size allowed from attachments wouldn't impode the site.

    Just a few more statistics for a pointless point.....

    Harley#356 - 1,005 attachments in 32,209 posts - 32 posts for every 1 attachment
    dermaestro - 570 attachments in 3,868 posts - 6.7 posts for every 1 attachment
    DblG - 407 attachments in ??? posts - banned
    oki916 - 456 attachments in 4,828 posts - 10.5 posts for every 1 attachment
    kromdom - 503 attachments in 6,472 posts - 12.8 posts for every 1 attachment

    I'm using 3 to 4 times less attachments for every post then those other top 5 users.

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    This isnt Google. NHTOC makes almost zero revenue. So the idea of opening things up and allowing larger attachments because the traffic is down is counter to the fact that it isnt self supporting. Ive already changed the image size some.

    The processes, quotas and limits in place here are in place to keep the site up. As you said, most of what you want is already there you just want it different, or easier for you.
    The system is designed so that different levels of members have different levels of access. If registered members are given access to everything with no limits then there is little incentive for people to support the site and become supporting members. Supporting members are what are keeping the doors open here.

    I appreciate your participation, and your input.

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    Understood, I guess the root of my point is most all other forums do someof those simple things that don't take up more space like inidicating PMs at the top of the page, and putting mailbox full at the top of the PM box instead of the bottom, for easier forum ergonomics. The loss of the user cp button on this version of vbulletin also makes things a little less user friendly compared to most forums.

    Understand the larger images take up more space, but with already killing the gallery, and the slow forum traffic anyway, didn't see allowing the few of us who still post to put up normal size images a big deal breaker. It actually helps encourage forum activity having decent size photos to post and see. When they're tiny and limited to 5 a page, I'd rather go post on LR where they're big and 10 a page, yet that's a double edge sword because I'd rather support NHTOC's activity than LR owned by AG. Simply some requests and feedback to help make NHTOC a better forum.

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    I really do appreciate the input - the reason I asked the question about the gallery was to see if anyone cared. If no one cares then there is no reason for me to spend my $$.

    The gallery is not closed - I spent the $$ to upgrade it and its staying.

    I have no interest nor intention of chasing Lightning Rodder and matching their settings. They are still running VB 3.x which is why the site looks different. To remain secure and supportable, before too long they will be forced to either upgrade to 4.x or 5.x or change to another forum software. We moved ahead to stay secure and supportable. Its not possible nor desirable to change VB 4 to look just like VB3 - I understand that its what people used for the past 10 years and I understand people dont like change. But Im not looking at making decisions based on where buttons or controls are, I make decisions on whether the site is hacked or not, whether it will be available for members in 2 years.

    the attachments and the images in the gallery are set to max 1024 largest single dimension

    One of the reasons I limit the disk space that the forums take up is this server hosts 5 copies of VB for 5 sites, and about 100 other accounts for smaller static sites. The revenue generated from those sites helps keep NHTOC open.

    I backup the server 2x a day and try to keep 30 days of backups. The backup space isnt free and I cant poick and choose what gets backed up by folder its by account. So again
    because Im making decisions for the long term viability of all the sites, I put reasonable limits on the attachments and the gallery.

    And finally there is no reason you cant upload pictures to any of the dozens of image sites and link them here.





    User CP button was changed to the settings button - same function different name

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