How Do You Bulit Proof Your Tanny? - Page 3

huot5 · 07-24-2007, 10:46 AM

I hope the tranny can handle the heavier truck either way ( S/C'd or not)

phil6608 · 07-24-2007, 03:48 PM

"How Do You Bulit Proof Your Tranny?"

Sorry to say but there's no such thing!
I have had my 4R70W built/built again with every part out there/added a PI TC and added some other parts we found on the market.
And yesterday it went out again. No 3rd or OD
If you make enough power it's going to break.
I'm looking in to a BTS 4R100 now. Maybe that will do the trick.

Phil

Black 2003 · 07-24-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil6608

"How Do You Bulit Proof Your Tranny?"

Sorry to say but there's no such thing!
I have had my 4R70W built/built again with every part out there/added a PI TC and added some other parts we found on the market.
And yesterday it went out again. No 3rd or OD
If you make enough power it's going to break.
I'm looking in to a BTS 4R100 now. Maybe that will do the trick.

Phil

Phil,

Looking at your mods you should've really started out with a BTS 4R100 from the get go. Let us know if you do and check back after it's been broken in.

Later...
Bruce

phil6608 · 07-24-2007, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black 2003

Phil,

Looking at your mods you should've really started out with a BTS 4R100 from the get go. Let us know if you do and check back after it's been broken in.

Later...
Bruce

Ya,,hahaha and I should have started out with a 2 wheel drive to.But I never planed on making a lot of power when I bought the truck.
And when I had the tranny done I thought, well if Johnny Lightning can run a 4R70W, Then I could build it up and be ok.But,,live and learn,,lol.
I wanted to use my tranny because it's lighter. Didn't need to add any more weight.

Phil

Black 2003 · 07-24-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil6608

And when I had the tranny done I thought, well if Johnny Lightning can run a 4R70W, Then I could build it up and be ok.But,,live and learn,,lol.
I wanted to use my tranny because it's lighter. Didn't need to add any more weight.

Phil

That's some "top secret" tranny mods there.

Later...
Bruce

Tazz · 07-25-2007, 11:10 PM

Oh phil but there is a production car that the engineers worked 6 years on the tranny so hold up to the 1001Hp it produces. Bugatti Veyron.
But for our trucks NO.
Tazz

phil6608 · 07-26-2007, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz

Oh phil but there is a production car that the engineers worked 6 years on the tranny so hold up to the 1001Hp it produces. Bugatti Veyron.
But for our trucks NO.
Tazz

hahaha My tranny is built for 1000 HP. All the hard parts are holding up for me but the clutches still go. And there the kevlar or whatever you call them.The best clutches you can get!

Phil

Harley#356 · 07-30-2007, 06:41 AM

if you need a tranny harness for a 4R100, lemme know. I've got a spare one, just gotta find it. I did the swap from 4R70W to 4R100 during my whole buildup winter before last

phil6608 · 07-30-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley#356

if you need a tranny harness for a 4R100, lemme know. I've got a spare one, just gotta find it. I did the swap from 4R70W to 4R100 during my whole buildup winter before last

Hay thank you.
I'll ask my tuner/builder if he is going to need it and let you know.

Phil

Harley#356 · 08-01-2007, 06:19 AM

no problemo! shot you a PM with a bunch of info. you will need the tranny harness. the 4R100 is setup totally different than the 4R70W so all the sensors, etc. are a bit different.

who exactly is your tuner/builder? I'm assuming somebody in the tri-state region? you gotta get that truck to one of the DelVal meets coming up!

smknhd · 08-13-2007, 11:49 PM

What is the maximum HP you can apply to a 4R100 with a FTVB only (stock converter, etc.) for the street and expect it to live?

2manytrucks · 08-14-2007, 12:36 AM

I don't think there is a resonable number that you can point to that will say at this point it will fail. Each tranny is different and driven differently. There are alot of people drving around with trucks in the 380-400+ HP on stockers. Mine was rebuilt by Ford once already...387/469 the last time I was on a dyno.

smknhd · 08-14-2007, 11:33 AM

I just finished having my mother built (after joining the VBC). KB 2.6, Ross Pistons, H-beam rods, ported heads, stainless valves, good springs, head studs. I am hoping for 450-500hp. I am planning on a FTVB and a Moroso pan. Just wondering if I will be looking at transmission issues....

Black 2003 · 08-14-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smknhd

I just finished having my mother built (after joining the VBC). KB 2.6, Ross Pistons, H-beam rods, ported heads, stainless valves, good springs, head studs. I am hoping for 450-500hp. I am planning on a FTVB and a Moroso pan. Just wondering if I will be looking at transmission issues....

SO what exactly was wrong with your mother that she needed a rebuild?

Later...
Bruce

Harley#356 · 08-14-2007, 02:56 PM

too funny.

the 4R100 is pretty stout. you should be okay with 450-500 hp to the wheels, but its a hard call to make. some guys trannies have gone when they were bone stock, other guys have put some serious power through them. a number of L's on NLOC with the same tranny have ran 10's and 11's on the stock trans with just a converter and valve body.

i'd keep it in the back of your mind for a future upgrade down the road, but I wouldnt be too worried about killing it in the first 100 miles

07-24-2007, 03:48 PM	#32 (permalink)
phil6608 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wilmington DE Posts: 264 View this user's gallery iTrader: 4 / 100%	"How Do You Bulit Proof Your Tranny?" Sorry to say but there's no such thing! I have had my 4R70W built/built again with every part out there/added a PI TC and added some other parts we found on the market. And yesterday it went out again. No 3rd or OD If you make enough power it's going to break. I'm looking in to a BTS 4R100 now. Maybe that will do the trick. Phil __________________ Built Lightning block, stage 3 ported heads and Comp cams, ported L intake manifold. Kenne Bell blower at 18 PSI New BTS 4R100 tranny 100 shot Nitrous Best 1/4 to date 60'-1.6 1/4-11.76 @ 116.17 MPH

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07-24-2007, 10:46 AM	#31 (permalink)
huot5 Who Dat is Paid Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MIA Posts: 2,480 NHTOC member #: 342 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I hope the tranny can handle the heavier truck either way ( S/C'd or not)

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Tazz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: KS Posts: 3,511 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Oh phil but there is a production car that the engineers worked 6 years on the tranny so hold up to the 1001Hp it produces. Bugatti Veyron. But for our trucks NO. Tazz

07-30-2007, 06:41 AM	#38 (permalink)
Harley#356 Worlds Fastest HD F150!!! Paid Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Week-Philly; Weekend-Souf Jerz Posts: 23,658 NHTOC member #: 3 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	if you need a tranny harness for a 4R100, lemme know. I've got a spare one, just gotta find it. I did the swap from 4R70W to 4R100 during my whole buildup winter before last

08-01-2007, 06:19 AM	#40 (permalink)
Harley#356 Worlds Fastest HD F150!!! Paid Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Week-Philly; Weekend-Souf Jerz Posts: 23,658 NHTOC member #: 3 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	no problemo! shot you a PM with a bunch of info. you will need the tranny harness. the 4R100 is setup totally different than the 4R70W so all the sensors, etc. are a bit different. who exactly is your tuner/builder? I'm assuming somebody in the tri-state region? you gotta get that truck to one of the DelVal meets coming up!

08-13-2007, 11:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
smknhd Registered User Paid Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Long Beach area, CA Posts: 34 NHTOC member #: 501 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	What is the maximum HP you can apply to a 4R100 with a FTVB only (stock converter, etc.) for the street and expect it to live?

08-14-2007, 12:36 AM	#42 (permalink)
2manytrucks Man this is expensive!!! Paid Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 3,361 NHTOC member #: 315 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I don't think there is a resonable number that you can point to that will say at this point it will fail. Each tranny is different and driven differently. There are alot of people drving around with trucks in the 380-400+ HP on stockers. Mine was rebuilt by Ford once already...387/469 the last time I was on a dyno.

08-14-2007, 11:33 AM	#43 (permalink)
smknhd Registered User Paid Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Long Beach area, CA Posts: 34 NHTOC member #: 501 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just finished having my mother built (after joining the VBC). KB 2.6, Ross Pistons, H-beam rods, ported heads, stainless valves, good springs, head studs. I am hoping for 450-500hp. I am planning on a FTVB and a Moroso pan. Just wondering if I will be looking at transmission issues....

08-14-2007, 02:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
Harley#356 Worlds Fastest HD F150!!! Paid Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Week-Philly; Weekend-Souf Jerz Posts: 23,658 NHTOC member #: 3 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	too funny. the 4R100 is pretty stout. you should be okay with 450-500 hp to the wheels, but its a hard call to make. some guys trannies have gone when they were bone stock, other guys have put some serious power through them. a number of L's on NLOC with the same tranny have ran 10's and 11's on the stock trans with just a converter and valve body. i'd keep it in the back of your mind for a future upgrade down the road, but I wouldnt be too worried about killing it in the first 100 miles