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    How do you guys apply the polish? Do you use a buffer or by hand? My truck has lived its life outside so the paint isnt perfect. I have used the basic carnuba waxes like mothers etc. but the stuff lasts only a few weeks and only looks ok. What would you reccomend for a fair paint job to make it look its best? And where do you guys buy this stuff? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastmike View Post
    How do you guys apply the polish? Do you use a buffer or by hand? My truck has lived its life outside so the paint isnt perfect. I have used the basic carnuba waxes like mothers etc. but the stuff lasts only a few weeks and only looks ok. What would you reccomend for a fair paint job to make it look its best? And where do you guys buy this stuff? Thanks.
    Polish is applied by machine.
    I have tried MANY different products and I now have a product and pad combo that works great.
    Polishing your paint should not be done any more than once or twice a year.

    Carnauba waxes look great but do not lasts.
    I have tried a few some are glossy and some like Pinnacle Souveran have a warm deep look.
    Souveran looks warm, deep and real nice but only lasts 2-3 weeks at the most.

    Synthetic Sealants are plastic shiny and last a long time.
    Until BFWD I used Zaino Z-2 and added Souveran on top for longevity and warmth.
    BFWD is a synthetic so it should last and has a deep, warm, wet "carnauba-look" finish.

    For fair paint I would recommend a little time and TLC.
    I have taken a lot WORSE than fair and turned it into a show car finish.

    Where do you buy the stuff?
    Different stuff different places
    I like Blackfire Car Care Products proper auto care
    I also like The Driver's Seat Open 7 days

    Yes, a lot has changed since doing your dad's Oldsmobile paint with a tin jar of Simoniz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin View Post
    Where do you buy the stuff?
    Different stuff different places
    I like Blackfire Car Care Products proper auto care
    I also like The Driver's Seat Open 7 days

    Yes, a lot has changed since doing your dad's Oldsmobile paint with a tin jar of Simoniz.
    Well as most of you know from the CMA closing post that CMA was the exclusive source for the Blackfire product line.

    Well I just learned that Autogeek.net purchased Blackfire USA and the Blackfire products are still going to be available.

    Blackfire products can be purchased directly from The Driver's Seat or from autogeek.net. I'm glad 'cause BFWD is a fav!

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    Merlin,

    What do you use to clean the DA pads after use? I've always used the Snappy pad cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have much of any effect upon the Blackfire WDPP. The pad is stained light blue and stays "greasy" after washing with soap and water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2003 HD #808 View Post
    Merlin,

    What do you use to clean the DA pads after use? I've always used the Snappy pad cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have much of any effect upon the Blackfire WDPP. The pad is stained light blue and stays "greasy" after washing with soap and water.
    A while back I purchased a Universal Pad Washer and It works wonders for cleaning pads after a detail. Fast, clean and easy. The pads are clean and I lay then face down on a Sham-Wow.

    As far as cleaning BFWD out of a pad, sadly I have never had any success. I have used PRS (Pad Rejuvenating Solution), XMT and even Simple Green full strength. All with no success.

    Finally I just take the pad I use BFWD (LC black or blue work good) and put it in a Ziplock freezer bag and only use it for BFWD. That way I also don't have to worry about cross contamination.

    I wish I had a better answer for you but that what works for me.

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    First, thank you for stopping by and allowing me the opportunity to convey a little hands on PC7424xp DA buffer training.

    Quote Originally Posted by fastmike View Post
    I have used the basic carnuba waxes like mothers etc. but the stuff lasts only a few weeks and only looks ok.
    Some waxes have a luxurious look and that's OK if you enjoy waxing. Natural waxes have a short 2-3 week life span on your tin
    Synthetic sealants usually are very shiny and that's OK too. I like shiny things. Synthetics bond and last better. Usually 4-6 months.
    Some folks say that due to its short lasting properties natural wax is old technology. I believe it still has a place on my detailing shelf.

    Quote Originally Posted by fastmike View Post
    What would you reccomend for a fair paint job to make it look its best? Thanks.
    Preparation is the key! It's all about cleaning and polishing the paint. Wax or sealant is the last thing you do to seal and protect the paint.
    If your Last Step Products is 99.9% optically clear your prepped paint finish will show through. LSP on swirl marks makes shiny swirl marks!

    What would I recommended?
    Here is the real short version.

    Wash (2 bucket)
    Clay (Z-18)
    Wash again
    KBM polish
    Menz PO85
    Seal w/Z-2 or BFWD.

    Maintain...

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    Well it's been a couple of weeks since I first applied BFWD and the rain has poured down for the last few days.
    What I have noticed so far is BFWD does not have that very small tiny water beading like the Zaino Z-2.
    I believe I remember reading that Sal Zaino added the water beading properties to Z-2 as an afterthought.
    This was due to the old school thinking that water beading equals protection. I'm not sure if it means anything.

    I like the look of the tiny Z-2 water beads although it probably has nothing to do with protection and finish.
    I know there is a difference between beading and sheating. Sheating is probably the preferred finish.
    With Sheating there should be no water spots. I hate water spots on paint almost as much a bird poop.
    Final Comment: I like the gloss and warmth of BFWD but I do miss the look of the Z-2 tiny micro water beads.

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    heres pics of mine fianlly got my digital camera working
    this was after 1500 wetsand /compund and polishing, as well as 2 coats of liguid glass and some z-2
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    Cool

    Damn...looking good guys. Just got a Zaino kit. Anybody need a place to stay while on vacation in exchange for a nice detail and a few tips on how to use the PC!

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    i could use a vacation , whats the weather like?

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    Weather is great! 88 degrees, cool tropical breezes and occasional 10 minute tropical showers....typical island style. Just have to watch out for hurricanes this time of year!

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